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October 8, 2017 at 7:58 pm #7163collincampbellParticipant
Why wood CH give someone loose stools?
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October 8, 2017 at 7:59 pm #7734laurieayresParticipant
Because of line 230.
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October 8, 2017 at 8:00 pm #7736collincampbellParticipant
I’ve got sum reading to do. Just landed!
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October 8, 2017 at 8:01 pm #7738markgearingParticipant
Laurie Ayres , we also can look at CH as mobilizing the San Jiao fluid pathways, which may faciliate moving the bowels correct?
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October 8, 2017 at 8:02 pm #8040Stephen BonzakParticipant
That is correct! Bitter CH floats to open the surface in order to descend the SJ metal – it is the the shaoyang equivalent of bitter MH floating to open the surface in order to and descend the LU metal.
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October 9, 2017 at 8:02 pm #7737collincampbellParticipant
Happened to me 3 separate times this week on 3 separate patients. Ultimately, they are all yin confirmation patients. I was just doing my due diligence.
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October 9, 2017 at 8:03 pm #7735laurieayresParticipant
I’ve also had a few people who just can’t take CH due to this, even when they flare into what looks like a classic shao yang presentation after a cold. They’ve often tended to be larger people with a lot of tendency to cold damp earth already, and I’ve ended up doing GCGJT based treatments, or JG on top of a GJ or FZ formula, that’s if the sore throat hasn’t auto-resolved by the time they’ve come back, after stopping the herbs due to the awful downpour I inflicted upon them 😀
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October 9, 2017 at 8:03 pm #8044markgearingParticipant
Awesome, Stephen Bonzak. Thank you! Thank you for that comparison.
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October 9, 2017 at 8:04 pm #8045laurieayresParticipant
Hi, everyone. I’m still having a hard time getting this patient’s pulses and symptoms to shift. She does respond to XXT treatments mostly, but her nasal congestion continues (although she says it is 75% better), and sometimes she still gets some epigastric discomfort and loose stools, as well as sinus pressure. Maybe she’s been on XXT too long now (since March), and I need to do more direct warming of taiyin, perhaps with a GZRST. I also tend to combine my XXT with LGZGT and GG. Her pulses tend to be: L thin wiry, dong 1-2, rollup, and last time her L1 was slightly floating; R thin wiry weak, rollup. Also, sometimes R1 is tight. What do you guys think? She is coming in soon.
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October 9, 2017 at 8:05 pm #8046markgearingParticipant
Cough with dark urine and heat feeling can also be Zhuling Tang, but that doesn’t fit with the dry stool.
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