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    • #7163
      collincampbell
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      Why wood CH give someone loose stools?

    • #7734
      laurieayres
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      Because of line 230.

    • #7736
      collincampbell
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      I’ve got sum reading to do. Just landed!

    • #7738
      markgearing
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      Laurie Ayres , we also can look at CH as mobilizing the San Jiao fluid pathways, which may faciliate moving the bowels correct?

    • #8040
      Stephen Bonzak
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      That is correct! Bitter CH floats to open the surface in order to descend the SJ metal – it is the the shaoyang equivalent of bitter MH floating to open the surface in order to and descend the LU metal.

    • #7737
      collincampbell
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      Happened to me 3 separate times this week on 3 separate patients. Ultimately, they are all yin confirmation patients. I was just doing my due diligence.

    • #7735
      laurieayres
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      I’ve also had a few people who just can’t take CH due to this, even when they flare into what looks like a classic shao yang presentation after a cold. They’ve often tended to be larger people with a lot of tendency to cold damp earth already, and I’ve ended up doing GCGJT based treatments, or JG on top of a GJ or FZ formula, that’s if the sore throat hasn’t auto-resolved by the time they’ve come back, after stopping the herbs due to the awful downpour I inflicted upon them 😀

    • #8044
      markgearing
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      Awesome, Stephen Bonzak. Thank you! Thank you for that comparison.

    • #8045
      laurieayres
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      Hi, everyone. I’m still having a hard time getting this patient’s pulses and symptoms to shift. She does respond to XXT treatments mostly, but her nasal congestion continues (although she says it is 75% better), and sometimes she still gets some epigastric discomfort and loose stools, as well as sinus pressure. Maybe she’s been on XXT too long now (since March), and I need to do more direct warming of taiyin, perhaps with a GZRST. I also tend to combine my XXT with LGZGT and GG. Her pulses tend to be: L thin wiry, dong 1-2, rollup, and last time her L1 was slightly floating; R thin wiry weak, rollup. Also, sometimes R1 is tight. What do you guys think? She is coming in soon.

    • #8046
      markgearing
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      Cough with dark urine and heat feeling can also be Zhuling Tang, but that doesn’t fit with the dry stool.

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