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December 14, 2017 at 5:47 am #7217
Kevin
ParticipantI’m curious if there are any success stories out there for treatment of V-tach, post MI. My Dad has been having increased episodes of them. He is being recommended ablation as the medications haven’t done the trick. He has been hesitant to go on herbs, and in his mind ablation is the only option at this point. My current feeling on the ablation procedure isn’t exactly heart warming given the initial research forays (Yeah, I went there). Anyhow, I would love to hear any experiences good or bad. Mmmm, cinnamon.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:48 am #7958
Coleman McMurphy
ParticipantBeen treating tachycardia case recently. Pulse rate up to 175+ upon waking before herbs (with meds). Couldnt exercise at all without episodes. Pulses faint deep overall. Bilateral. Initial formula ZWT -BS +GZ12Improvement about 60%. Pulse changes to speedbump shape. Switch to TXS. 80-90% better.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:49 am #7953
Arnaud Versluys
KeymasterHe prefers ablation over trying herbs?!Pardon the language, but you can’t fix stupid.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:50 am #7955
Mette Heinz
ParticipantWe have so many options for treating this. Had fast and good results, depending on the pattern with GZRST, TXS, and last treating myself, after virus causing extreme vomiting and frying oesophagus and stomach opening, with GCXXT + GZRST.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:50 am #8189
Coleman McMurphy
ParticipantPatricia
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December 14, 2017 at 5:51 am #7956
Mette Heinz
ParticipantMaybe ask if your dad knows people who have had ablation. No fun.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:51 am #8190
Kevin
ParticipantI agree, you can fix stupid, at least when it involves helping people see they are being misled. Oh do I want to rant about these so called success rates the doctors and big institutions quote.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:52 am #7957
Alexandra Watkins
ParticipantThanks boys. Hopefully that’s the missing link. I’ll give it a whirl and report back.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:53 am #7960
Jay Bartlett
ParticipantThanks boys. Hopefully that’s the missing link. I’ll give it a whirl and report back.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:54 am #7954
laurieayres
ParticipantAny kind of surgical procedure is not reversible, full stop. So it is his choice, but once it is, done it’s done. But if his heart is set on it, then while he’s waiting what harm could a few bags of herbs do? The first person I treated post ablation had a constant feeling of caving in of the chest with a constant feeling of ‘cold knotting’ (their words), and still had occasional palpitations. I often teach the case as it is a good example of a GZGCT after damage to heart yang. Other patients I’ve seen since all seem to still have cardiac issues and symptoms, and also unsurprising weak heart yang from our perspective.Treatment wise tachycardia needs GZ, and very often FZ, at the root, and since I’ve been going higher on the GZ, up to 60, results are definitely better and faster. Ht/Kid is also often seen, and also there is often the need to build earth to hold yang (TXS+GZRST+FL type) or to build pericardium nutritive too (SQW+TXS type). But do make sure they are well harmonised and the stomach is open before going in with the heavy yang tonification, as if not this will exacerbate the tachycardia, and often opening the stomach and descending yang will start to calm it at the yang conformation stage (see GGQLT). Also I’ve often seen people who are being treated with yang tonifying treatments have bouts of tachycardia returning; this often goes with harmonising pretty quickly, it basically follows a very similar pattern to most yang restoring treatments.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:54 am #8191
Kevin
ParticipantSeriously. That and the recovery from these operations sounds pretty intense in its own right.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:55 am #7959
Lucas
ParticipantMost EPs- ElectroPhysiologists- are trigger happy with ablation procedures and will quote to the patients the “cure rates” from the various ablation procedures based on the specific condition, with numbers generally around the 95%-98% “cure rate”. But what they don’t tell you is what this actually means. Or why so many patients seem to need a second or third ablation procedure, which doesn’t seem to affect their near perfect “cure rate”. That’s because the “cure” is defined by the lack of pathological reactivity of the heart tissue during the procedure, just after they cauterize the heart muscle tissue. What happens the next day or the next month or next year after that doesn’t concern them or their “cure rate”. So don’t be misled. As far as I can tell most ablations are not curative and lead to more procedures.
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December 14, 2017 at 5:57 am #8192
Kevin
ParticipantWell said. What they call a success or cure is quite stunning. Have you found any stats on the % of patients needing extra ablations?
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